PODCAST: How Elon Musk is trying to dismantle the Interior Department

Last week, I joined the The Landscape Podcast to discuss the current state of affairs at the Interior Department — an agency that controls hundreds of millions of acres of public land, protects endangered species, runs the national parks, delivers water across the American West, and more. On the podcast we delve into the mass firing of federal employees, the DOGE operatives currently embedded at DOI, and the Trump administration’s political assault on the non-partisan civil service. The conversation also features Jacob Malcom, a top Interior Department official who recently resigned from the agency rather than participate in what he described as the administration’s “illegal and unconstitutional” actions. Please give it a listen to learn about the latest developments at our country’s largest conservation agency.